Comments on: The Long History of Tithing http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2009/07/the-long-history-of-tithing/ Avoiding Hackneyed...Making Sense Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:48:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tithing Countermanded By Corruption? | NowTHINK!AboutIt http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2009/07/the-long-history-of-tithing/comment-page-1/#comment-2525 Tithing Countermanded By Corruption? | NowTHINK!AboutIt Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:55 +0000 http://nowthinkaboutit.com/?p=344#comment-2525 [...] His experience gives us a very interesting perspective on tithing. You can read about it here and here. [...] [...] His experience gives us a very interesting perspective on tithing. You can read about it here and here. [...]

]]> By: The Philosophy of Tithing | NowTHINK!AboutIt http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2009/07/the-long-history-of-tithing/comment-page-1/#comment-2410 The Philosophy of Tithing | NowTHINK!AboutIt Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:36:08 +0000 http://nowthinkaboutit.com/?p=344#comment-2410 [...] far, in preceding posts, I have explained why Jesus didn’t re-teach tithing and discussed the long history of this practice in Scripture. In future posts I will give reasons to show that tithing is [...] [...] far, in preceding posts, I have explained why Jesus didn’t re-teach tithing and discussed the long history of this practice in Scripture. In future posts I will give reasons to show that tithing is [...]

]]> By: EnnisP http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2009/07/the-long-history-of-tithing/comment-page-1/#comment-1921 EnnisP Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:54:21 +0000 http://nowthinkaboutit.com/?p=344#comment-1921 Hey Earl, For some reason your comments are being seen as spam and blocked. I only noticed it just now and approved the ones that weren't deleted yet. In the future you might leave the URL out of the comment. It is automatically recorded when you register and anyone who clicks on your name will be taken to your site. And as far as tithing goes maybe the pagans had it right. They undersood something you don't, ten percent belongs to God. Later texts were applying the tithe to a specific context which no longer exists, the priesthood. The tithe, however, is still the principle for giving. Hey Earl,
For some reason your comments are being seen as spam and blocked. I only noticed it just now and approved the ones that weren’t deleted yet. In the future you might leave the URL out of the comment. It is automatically recorded when you register and anyone who clicks on your name will be taken to your site.

And as far as tithing goes maybe the pagans had it right. They undersood something you don’t, ten percent belongs to God.

Later texts were applying the tithe to a specific context which no longer exists, the priesthood. The tithe, however, is still the principle for giving.

]]> By: Russell Earl Kelly http://nowthinkaboutit.com/2009/07/the-long-history-of-tithing/comment-page-1/#comment-1814 Russell Earl Kelly Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:35:36 +0000 http://nowthinkaboutit.com/?p=344#comment-1814 The CONTEXT of Abraham and Jacob's tithe was pagan. Tithing was known and practiced all around the word of Abraham. The CONTEXT is not holy tithes from a holy land by a holy people to a holy Yahweh. Like all other tithe-teachers you stop studying Hebrews 7 at verse 10. Verse 12 says that there is a "necessary change of the law" (of tithing first mentioned in 7:5) and verse 18 says that the change was the "annulment of the commandment going before" which must at the very least include tithing from 7:5. You said: And it is actually a hoot to suggest that Jacob placed conditions on his vow to tithe. Jacob’s statement did nothing more than acknowledge the promises God made to both Abraham and Isaac previously and even to Jacob in this very passage. Read the text: “If God will be with me and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat and clothing to wear, so that I come again to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God, and this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, shall be God’s house. And of all that you give me I will give a full tenth to you.” The only part of Abraham's tithe which would have been accepted under the Law was gold and silver which survived the fire. And even that would not have been used to sustain Levites or priests. It would have been used for Temple maintenance. 16 texts in the Law describe the contents of the tithe as ONLY FOOD from inside Israel which God has miraculously increased. There are no texts which describe biblical tithes as money or income. If you are going to insist on teaching tithing, then you should honestly teach everything the Bible says a bout tithing in Numbers 18. (1) Give the first whole tithe to Levites who were only servants to the priests (18:21-24). (2) Give the NT priests only one per cent of the Levitical tithe (18:25-28). (3) Not allow tithe-recipients to own or inherit property. (4) Kill anybody who dares to worship God directly. And (5) keep the whole law in order to be blessed from tithing; kill children who curse or strike parents. Anything less is hypocrisy. Russell Earl Kelly www.tithing-russkelly.com The CONTEXT of Abraham and Jacob’s tithe was pagan. Tithing was known and practiced all around the word of Abraham. The CONTEXT is not holy tithes from a holy land by a holy people to a holy Yahweh.
Like all other tithe-teachers you stop studying Hebrews 7 at verse 10. Verse 12 says that there is a “necessary change of the law” (of tithing first mentioned in 7:5) and verse 18 says that the change was the “annulment of the commandment going before” which must at the very least include tithing from 7:5.
You said: And it is actually a hoot to suggest that Jacob placed conditions on his vow to tithe. Jacob’s statement did nothing more than acknowledge the promises God made to both Abraham and Isaac previously and even to Jacob in this very passage.
Read the text: “If God will be with me and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat and clothing to wear, so that I come again to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God, and this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, shall be God’s house. And of all that you give me I will give a full tenth to you.”
The only part of Abraham’s tithe which would have been accepted under the Law was gold and silver which survived the fire. And even that would not have been used to sustain Levites or priests. It would have been used for Temple maintenance.

16 texts in the Law describe the contents of the tithe as ONLY FOOD from inside Israel which God has miraculously increased. There are no texts which describe biblical tithes as money or income.

If you are going to insist on teaching tithing, then you should honestly teach everything the Bible says a bout tithing in Numbers 18. (1) Give the first whole tithe to Levites who were only servants to the priests (18:21-24). (2) Give the NT priests only one per cent of the Levitical tithe (18:25-28). (3) Not allow tithe-recipients to own or inherit property. (4) Kill anybody who dares to worship God directly. And (5) keep the whole law in order to be blessed from tithing; kill children who curse or strike parents.

Anything less is hypocrisy.

Russell Earl Kelly
http://www.tithing-russkelly.com

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